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Info-IBMPC Digest           Mon, 29 Mar 93       Volume 93 : Issue  46

Today's Editor:
         Gregory Hicks - Rota Spain <[e-mail]>

Today's Topics:
                          486 memory errors.
                     Day of Week Function in DOS
             device drivers for Trantor SCSI card needed!
                How do I write real-mode 32-bit code?
               How to run NCSA Telnet with PhoneNET PC?
             how to send a clear screen code to a vt 100
                           IBM error codes
                   IBM VALUEPOINT & DOSLAN Problem
                             I need help
                   Information required about PICK
                MASSTECK...big prices.. slack support!
            Memory CPU and buses and a lot of troubles...
                    memory trouble on 486 computer
                    modems and answering machines
                            RS422 to RS232
               Statistics packages and round off errors
                      Video Blaster Info needed
              Wanted Software Reviewers for OR/MS Today
              word and RTF format (line length) problem

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 08:58:34 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: 486 memory errors.

1.  I agree that all these memory problems y'all are having with your
486's probably are not chip or simm related.

2. However some may be chip or simm related.

3. I had an intermitant memory error on my 386 last year.  It seemed to
me that only certain programs would trigger it (windows included).  I
ended up running checkit (with no emm line in the config.sys).   If I
ran it less than say 10 times I would get a clean bill of health for
the sytstem.

4. On a hunch set checkit up with a high number of tests and ran it
overnight the next morning the bad chip was located and subsequently
replaced.

5. The moral of this story.  Checkit is good at finding errors, but you
must give it time to really work out your system to be sure.

6. Just thought I'd put in my two cents worth.

Bill Ryan                              |Be careful what you ask for
Computer Programmer Analyst            |you may get it and have to use it.
New York State Department of Health|            -Kipers rules of logistics
Albany, New York.|

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Date: 2 Mar 93 04:23:48 GMT
From: Doug Merrett <[e-mail]>
Subject: Day of Week Function in DOS

[e-mail] wrote:
: Hello All
: Is there a DOS interrupt which will accept a date (like 25/02/93) and
: return the day of the week (ie THURSDAY). I have looked around through
: various manuals and have not seen a DOS function for this.

: If there isn't a function for this how come int21h, function 2Ah (GET
: SYSTEM TIME) returns the current day of the week as well as the system
: date when called. Is there some sort of undocumented call for this?

: Can anyone suggest any other way of getting this information.

--

Dale,

Here is some "C" code to calculate the day of the week.  I got it off
the Net and I have no idea who wrote it, but it works well.

Regards,

Doug.
---

Doug Merrett
Internet: [e-mail]

---------------------------- CUT HERE ------------------------

/*----------------------------------------------------------------------
 *
 *  Compute_Day
 *  Compute Day of Week
 *
 *  Usage
 *
 *      int
 *      Compute_Day(date, month, year)
 *      int     date ;
 *      int     month ;
 *      int     year ;
 *
 *  Parameters
 *
 *      date            Date of Month (1 - 31)
 *      month           Month of Year (1 - 12)
 *      year            Year (e.g., 1989)
 *
 *  Description
 *
 *      Compute_Day() computes the day of the week for the given date
 *      using the Zeller Congruence.  It returns a positive value from
 *      0 to 6 for the day of the week
 *
 *  Notes
 *
 *      The Zeller Congruence maps Saturday as day 0.  Most applications
 *      treat Sunday as day 0.  The parameter ZELLER_OFFSET is used to
 *      convert the day of the week from Zeller to local.
 *
 *-
 */

int
Compute_Day(date, month, year)
int     date ;
int     month ;
int     year ;

{
int     day ;
int     yr ;
int     mn ;
int     n1 ;
int     n2 ;

/* Offset from Zeller to local */
/* --------------------------- */
#define ZELLER_OFFSET   -1

yr = year ;
mn = month ;

/* January or February? */
/* -------------------- */
if (mn < 3)
        {
        /* Yes, make these part of last year */
        /* --------------------------------- */
        mn += 12 ;
        yr -= 1 ;
        }

n1 = (26 * (mn + 1)) / 10 ;
n2 = (int) ((125 * (long) yr) / 100) ;

day = ((date + n1 + n2 - (yr / 100) + (yr / 400) + ZELLER_OFFSET) % 7) ;
return day ;
}

---------- CUT HERE ------

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 22:51:55 ITA
From: maurizio lana <[e-mail]>
Subject: device drivers for Trantor SCSI card needed!

I bought a Grassroot floptical disk drive for Mac here in Italy.  The
drive came with Mac software.

I have a PC with Trantor SCSI Card, and want to connect the floptical
drive to this Trantor Card, but I lack the appropriate device driver.

Any suggestion? or could anyone that has it give me a copy (I think it
is not copyrighted as far as I already have their hardware).

Many thanks. Please cc: your answer directly to me.
Maurizio

MAURIZIO LANA | E-MAIL: [e-mail] | fax [phone]
CISI - Universita' di Torino - V. S. Ottavio 20 - 10124 Torino Italy

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Date: 2 Mar 93 23:27:33 GMT
From: Phillip Julian Eby <[e-mail]>
Subject: How do I write real-mode 32-bit code?

 [e-mail] (Paul Rubin)  writes:
>I'm interested in writing some assembly language routines that use
>32-bit operations on the 386/486 in order to run fast.  This is for a
>conventional, real-mode DOS application written mostly in C.  I'm
>using Borland C++, which comes with TASM, but could switch to MSC/MASM
>if I needed to.  What I'm trying to figure out is whether there
>is a convenient way to make the assembler emit the "operand size"
>prefix byte for every instruction that uses 32-bit data.
>TASM has directives to assemeble 386 and 486 code, but I think this
>just tells it to recognize some instructions that don't exist
>on the 286.  In any case, the TASM manual is quite unclear and
>none of the aftermarket books I've looked at say anything about this.
>It's probably not enough to just refer to 32-bit register names
>like eax, ecx, and so forth because tasm couldn't know to emit
>the prefix for an instruction like "inc foo" where foo is a memory
>address.  Do I have to define macros for every 32-bit instruction
>I want to use, or what?

If "foo" is defined as a 32-bit data item (e.g. "foo dd ?" or "extrn
foo:dword" or "foo = this dword" or "foo label dword" etc.) or an
override is used (e.g.  "inc dword ptr [foo]", the assembler should
output the prefix, provided that you have the .386 (or TASM equivalent)
mode active.  Any operation involving registers should work fine
without the size override if you specify a 32-bit register form.

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 11:25:51 EDT
From: "Ghassan N. Alkhoja" <[e-mail]>
Subject: How to run NCSA Telnet with PhoneNET PC?

Hello,

I am trying to use NCSA Telnet (and CUTCP tn3270) with Farallon's
PhoneNET PC, but I'm having no success.

Everything works fine with the PhoneNET software but tn3270 cannot seem
to obtain the Ethernet hardware address of the 3c503 card in the
machine. It just gives junk like 81:81:81:81:81:81 or c:c:c:c:c:c. From
there on no connections can be made. If I use 3c503 packet drivers,
tn3270 works but PhoneNET crashes.

Everything checks ok with the Net.cfg and Config.tel files. Drivers for
PhoneNET and for the 3c503 card load without errors (ioaddress,
interrupt, port, etc. are consistant).

The machine I'm trying this on is an IBM AT, with a 3COM II/16 TP card.

I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.

Ghassan Alkhoja

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 11:27:31 EST
From: "J. Pilant" <[e-mail]>
Subject: how to send a clear screen code to a vt 100

Stan Brown <[e-mail]> writes:
>[e-mail] (Tony Nuttall) writes:
>>I'm in the middle of writing an application which has to periodically
>>send information through com2 to a number of vt100 terminals.  What i
>>need to know is the clear and home screen code for vt100 terminal.
>
>You're in luck\(59) the VT100 screens accept all the ANSI codes listed in
>your DOS manual under ANSI.SYS (except for setting colors of
>course--though reverse video and blinking do work).
>
>For clear screen it's (ESC)[2J where (ESC) stands for ASCII 27--don't
>include the parens in the string.  This erases the entire screen and
>moves the cursor to position 0,0 (upper left).  To move the cursor
>without erasing, use (ESC)[line\(59)columnH e.g. "\![4\(59)20H" moves
>to line 5 column 21.  Remember the numbering system is 0-based not
>1-based.

Almost right.  The PC implimentation by IBM/MicroSoft goofed.  The PC
has no clear-to-end/clear-to-start code, and its clear-start-to-end
works wrong.  Sending "TEST$[10,1H$[J" leaves a blank screen and cursor
in the top left on a PC, bye a blank lower half and cursor on line 10
on a VT100.

The relevent sequences are:
ESC [ y \(59) x H  -- Position cursor
ESC [ p0 J     -- Clear screen [default=0] [0=here down, 1=here up, 2=all]
ESC [ p0 K     -- Clear line [default=0] [0=here right, 1=here left, 2=all]

/jeff

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 01:28:55 GMT
From: [e-mail] (M.J. Horsfall)
Subject: IBM error codes (V93 #37)

>A friend of mine have a PS/80 with a boot problem, the machine reports
>164 error code and we do not know what it means.  If someone could send
>us the error codes and an explanation of this particular problem we
>would thank you very much.

>Regard,
>       Johnny

According to my rather incomplete list of POST error codes, 164
signifies that the Memory size is incorrect. Has your friend recently
added extended memory?

Hope this helps,

Mike
--
M.J. Horsfall --------------------------------- [e-mail]
Department of Biophysics                        --------------------------
University of Rochester ----------------------- Phone:[phone] (Lab)

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Date: Tue Mar 09 16:57:33 GMT 1993
From: John Sheard <[e-mail]>
Subject: IBM VALUEPOINT & DOSLAN Problem

We have just purchased a PSVP 450DX2 pc, type 6384, model F42.

This has a 8 bit IBM Token-Ring (type II) adapter fitted. The switches
are set for ram address cc00, irq2, primary adapter, and 8kbytes
address space.

Our problem is that when the /ems switch is added to the Doslan.ini
file NET START gives the errors below:

    Unknown network error 57

    NET201: An initialisation error occurred. 0339

The Dos Lan requester users guide states that the 03 indicates failure
of program MSGSRVR.EXE and that the '39' is a hexadecimal
representation of a DOS error code.

My config.sys and autoexec.bat seem to install correctly and we have no
problems with apparently identical setups on IBM PS2's.

CONFIG.SYS

    SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM /E:5210 /P
    device=C:\dos\himem.sys
    device=c:\dos\emm386.exe 2048 frame=d000 x=cc00-cdff ram
    DOS=HIGH,UMB
    DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
    COUNTRY=044,437,C:\DOS\COUNTRY.SYS
    DEVICE=C:\DOS\DISPLAY.SYS CON=(EGA,,1)
    DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\CMOSCLK.SYS
    device=c:\dos\ansi.sys
    LASTDRIVE=Z
    files = 50
    FCBS=16,8
    buffers = 30
    device=C:\WINDOWS\smartdrv.sys 512 512
    device=\DOSLAN\DXMA0MOD.SYS 001
    device=\DOSLAN\DXMC0MOD.SYS
    device=\DOSLAN\DXMT0MOD.SYS S=12 C=14 ST=12

AUTOEXEC.BAT

    set comspec=c:\dos\command.com

    PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOSLAN;C:\;C:\DOS;C:\BIN;d:\FT
    append /e

    MODE CON CODEPAGE PREPARE=((437) C:\DOS\EGA.CPI)
    MODE CON CODEPAGE SELECT=437
    KEYB UK,,C:\DOS\KEYBOARD.SYS

    mirror c: /ta /tc /td
    mirror d:
    c:\dos\mouse /Y
    numlock off
    VER
    fastopen c:=50
    prompt $e[33m$p$g $e[32m
    loadhigh doskey

    SET TEMP=C:\DOS
    set TERM=ibmpc2
    set USER=GBL
    set ELIB=c:\BIN\elib
    set TMP=c:\tmp

    call neweel

NEWEEL.BAT

        @ECHO off
        if not /%1/ == //  goto SET_USER
        if not /%USER%/ == //  goto NET_LOGON
        set USER=*
        if /%USER%/ == /*/  goto NET_LOGON
        goto NO_USER

        :SET_USER
        set USER=%1
        goto NET_LOGON

        :NET_LOGON
        ECHO.
        ECHO  NETWORK:  Net start for logon to NEWEEL domain ...
        net start
        if not /%USER%/ == /*/  ECHO Logon username:%USER%
        net logon %USER% * /DOM:NEWEEL
        REM     if errorlevel 1 goto NO_DOSLAN

    [ etc ... ]

DOSLAN.INI

    RCV GBL2 NEWEEL
    /SRV:8  /ASG:29 /NBC:4  /NBS:1K /BBC:1  /BBS:4K /PBC:4  /PBS:128
    /PFS:32 /PFT:900        /PWT:250 /KUC:600       /KST:600
    /WRK:111121101000000 /ems

--
John Sheard
Computer Engineering Group
Dept. of Electronic Engineering
Leeds University
Email [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 15:11:11 -0300
From: [e-mail]
Subject: I need help

Hi guys:
      I'm currently faced an operating-system-like project in my
University It will use protected-mode 386 and we'll explore real-time
scheduling strate- gies on it. The basic idea is to build a kernel in
top of DOS, which switch to protected mode on start, and runs a set of
(synthetic) tasks.

I would like to know:
    ** if anybody of you knows about a discussion list which covers
advanced 386 topics (and real-time ones too)

    ** as development tools, we would use an advanced assembler as
MASM6.0 or TASM, which positively generates protected-mode code. But
the high level algorithms need to be coded in a (high level) language
as C. But here comes the problem: none of the popular C compilers does
it!. Alias, the same problem arises in the debugging hour.

   From reading commercial ads, 32-bit C Compilers like Watcom's and
Metaware's do generate 32-bit applications, but this is far from saying
protected mode ones, in accesing virtual memory, internal tables, etc.

       Could any of you give some advice to that point? I'll be very
pleased to hear from you (portuguese and spanish answers also welcome)
and you all are invited to join. Thank you for your time

      Alberto Ferrari
      [e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 07:26:14 -0200
From: Hector Adolfo Alonso <[e-mail]>
Subject: Information required about PICK

Hello Info-IBMPC List:
   I need information about the System Operating called PICK. I'm
trying to locate an interest group that discuss them. If you have
information on this topic, please let me know.

If you'll send info to me, I'll summarize for the list.

   Thanks in advance.
                                               Hector Adolfo Alonso

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Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 05:26:43 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Steve Howell)
Subject: MASSTECK...big prices.. slack support!

    Not a very happy fella me... Ive just purchased a new
autorouter to route our new PCB designs using Surface Mount Technology,
and have been totally dissapointed... For $8,200 Australian Dollars,
massteck will quite happily sell you their PCB router called MaxRoute,
Here in Australia it is supported by a firm called Protel. I Purchased
my copy from AWA Australia as a second hand package, as they had
completed their projects and did not mind allowing us to use it.

But... There is a bug, and im told that because i havent forked out
another $1000 bux ($750.00 US) for Maxroute Annual Maintenance, they
wont even help me, or even let me report a bug in their software that
needs to be fixed before this wizz bang wanko package will work with my
application...

Anyway... What i am after, is, are there any users out there with
maxroute that have problems with their Back Annotater from maxroute to
Protel..  My copy screws up the clearences and crippels my board for
manufacture..  Can anyone verify that this also happens with their
copy?

If anyone from Massteck reads this post, it might be an idea to mail
me, cause im not real happy with your product at the moment, and after
reading all your letters claiming "We will continue to insure that
mAsStEcK provides you with the best interactive autorouting tools, and
the best customer support"... well im just not convinced.....

I look forward to any replies, even from anyone who even uses maxroute.

Thanks

Steven Howell
Computing Centre
University Of Tasmania
Australia

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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 93 20:27:39 GMT
From: Moshe Wainer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Memory CPU and buses and a lot of troubles...


Hello netters!
Last saturday i have turned on my 386DX-25 1989, and after a few
minutes it drop down.  i have ctrl-alt-deleted it and then it began to
do weird things: the memory test counting was as slow as ONE tick in 30
SECONDS!!!!  the chip was quite much hotter than it is supposed to be..

when i worked on it i have played with parallel port connections and i
thought that may be it has burned out the I/O card so i pulled out all
the cards except for my ATI SVGA and tried to power it again, yet no
result..

BTW after it finishes memory tests (waiting about 2 hours) it shows an
HDD/FDD controller error, yet even w/o the controller it is supposed to
do the memory tests much faster than within two hours!!!  Any ideas
what it may be? (Memory chips? the CPU?? the BIOS?)


-----------------
and another question (yet if i have to buy a new CPU it is connected to the
previous):

The question is about BUSEs and CPUs and i know the list had a lot of
mailing on this subjects lately....

i thought of buying another motherboard and start wondering if it is
worth investing in EISA/LOCAL bus 486..  as i understood from the
discussions here, the EISA has a major problem of {the need to have
all the cards to be32 bit ..  yet i have asked and was told that the
LOCAL bus will be bottlenecked just the same if one of the cards is
8/16 bit.

the reason was as it was explained to me that if the process is waiting
for something to be done on lets say 8 bit monitor adapter it would
wait whnever the Disk controller or other card is 32 bit since most
software / hardware can't support parallel processing and the
motherboard (even with EISA or LOCAL bus don't have few busses to share
bus transfers.) (oh isn't it confusing????)

and the other question is if i need to have all my cards to be
purchased only to mmy specific bus, how do i know if there is enough
cards available for those standards and is it THAT fast that worth
considering ???

Thanx for reading this LOOONg question and my apreciating for incoming
answers..

Vainer Moshe
[e-mail]
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 04:37:27 TUR
From: "Thaddeus P. Bejnar" <[e-mail]>
Subject: memory trouble on 486 computer

For those of you who missed it this discussion is about a "parity
error" that appears when memory chips are good.  It appears in 486's
when a lot of memory is being used see Archive for full scope.

I took the suggestion of Keith Burt <[e-mail]> to exclude
B000-B7FF in my QEMM device statement in config.sys.  What it did was
disable the reading of my external CD/ROM drive (SCSI I adapter) while
in Windows.  In DOS the drive read just fine.  It is true that I didn't
get the "pariety error", but I didn't put the system through extensive
testing after I discovered the disability.

Any other suggestions?  Or info on why excluding B000-B7FF might work?
Or on a work-around for the SCSI in Windows if B000-B7FF is excluded?

                 --Thaddeus  Internet:  [e-mail]
                             Bitnet:  lgllawl@USCN

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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 11:02:29 +0100
From: " (Josef Bigun)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: modems and answering machines
Keywords: modem phone pc

Hello,

I am interested in a pc card/or standalone unit which is not too
expensive and does most of the following things:

*modem functions
  - connections to other computers and file transfers of course.
  - sending and receiving fax
  - differentiating between fax, commputer connection,
     and normal voice call (I have only one phone line) in a clever way.
*answering machine functions
  - answer,record,remote reading

Say that I am not asking too much from the machines please.  Will be
happy to receive pointers both in Europe and US.

Cheers
Josef

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Date: Thu Mar 11 09:41:29 EST 1993
From: cp486a![e-mail]
Subject: RS422 to RS232

Regarding RS-232 to RS-422 converters (and reverse), they are available
from several electronics supply companies.  I believe I got one once
from B&B Electronics for under $30.  Another company that comes to mind
off the top of my head is Black Box.

Ken Van Camp    <cp486a![e-mail]>

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 11:02:00 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Statistics packages and round off errors

Ang Peng Hwa writes about MINTAB v6.01:

>When I crunch the data with Clone A, I get
>        R-sq = 0.989 and Durbin-Watson = 0.08.

>When I crunch the same data with Clone B, I get
>        R-sq = 0.988 and Durbin-Watson = 0.06.

An obvious cause would be if system uses a math coprocessor and the
other doesn't.  Another possibility is that Mintab is configured for
double precision on one computer and single precision on another.  A
third possibility is that the data is read from an ASCII file on one
system and from a binary file on the other.  Lots of little things can
explain this discrepancy.

The differences are just a curiousity, in my opinion.  No one would
come up with a different interpretation of the statistical model based
on a change in R-sq from .989 to .988.

The Durbin-Watson statistics are unusually extreme.  Is this a typo?
Both appear to be highly significant, by the way, so a change in the
first significant digit does not change the effective interpretation.

Steve Simon
[e-mail]

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 09:47 EST
From: Navin Ganeshan <[e-mail]>
Subject: Video Blaster Info needed

   Hi, I was wondering if anyone had any information or first-hand
knowledge of the VIDEO-BLASTER board from Creative Labs.

   I need to be able to get real-time video input from several sources,
and be able to output it to a TV or VCR.  From what I've heard, the VB
can do this.  But,

        -   Does it have a built-in cable tuner ?
        -   Can it display 30 frames/sec digitized using MPEG or other
            compression algorithm.
        -   How does it handle sound (or does it) ?

   I'm hoping getting this single $ 399 card will serve all my video
needs.  If anyone has any experience or comments on this board, I'd
love to hear about it.

======--------
   Navin S. Ganeshan
   General Systems Corp
   Vienna, VA
=====---------

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Date: 11 Mar 1993 22:55:28 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Sol Kassicieh ASM)
Subject: Wanted Software Reviewers for OR/MS Today

The software review section of the OR/MS Today magazine published
jointly by the Operations Research Society of America and the Institute
of Management Sciences is looking for faculty and practitioners that
are interested in reviewing software packages.

If you are interested, please send your
1) name     2) address     3) telephone number
4) e-mail address
5) type of mchines available to them: PCs, Macs, Suns, DECs, Mainframes
   (specify type).
6) areas of interest for software review:
i) SOFTWARE EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS for use in courses in following areas:
    math programming,
    simulation
    decision analysis
    computer programs
    other (specify)

ii) REGULAR PACKAGES USED IN RESEARCH or ON JOB in following areas:
        math programming,
        simulation
        decision analysis
        computer programs
        other (specify)


To the Software editor of OR/MS Today at the following address:

*  Sul Kassicieh             E-MAIL:    [e-mail]    *
*  University of New Mexico                               *
*  Anderson School of Management     FAX:    [phone]        *
*  Albuquerque, NM  87131        PHONE:    [phone]        *

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Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1993 12:37:40 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Wayne R. Smith)
Subject: word and RTF format (line length) problem

[e-mail] writes:

>i have a problem with word, and maybe somebody can help me.
>we want to transfer word files via email.

why not just uuencode/uudecode it?

>RTF is a format which word can write containing only ASCII characters
>and therefore transferrable via normal email BUT Winword writes ASCII
>files with lines longer than 80 characters.  now some mailers
>(especially on IBM mainframes) truncate mail files with line sthat
>long.  is there a trick which can be taught to winword not to make the
>lines too long?

one of the DOS text save options is "...w/line breaks"--that might help.

wayne

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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 16:26:11 EST
From: Roger Denat <[e-mail]>

An interesting tidbit published in the March 1, 1993 issue of
Government Computer News tells the Email addresses for President
Clinton.  It lists following commercial and Internet addresses if you
want to send a letter or to subcribe to news lists.


Clinton Email:
   Compuserve:     75300,3115
   America Online: ClintonPZ or Clinton PZ  (not sure if there is a space)

To find about and sign up for available news lists:
[e-mail]

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